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If super forms scaled linearly instead of by emotional empowerment, Forces Death Egg Robot would absolutely be > Time Eater
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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Wait.I thought the time eater, like already existed in, and Eggman just managed to make it into one of his weapons
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Ya but Eggman is egotistical enough to consider it his creation regardless I'd imagine.
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Ua true i always liked the idea it was remnants of the 06 villain that survived the timewipe
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I'm iffy about them too, but I've never seen a good counter-argument against their legitimacy either. It ultimately depends on where you draw the line when it comes to outliers or "reasonable" AD. Both of which are pretty subjective
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Oh shit, you follow Tylearn?
But he only really mentioned for Metal Low Multi and Immeasurable. Not too far off tbh. Especially since he didn't go in-depth into the cosmology (not like he needed to).
Tbh, I told him the statement should only be applied to Base Sonic villains at best. Ig he overlooked that part lol. Regardless, Metal folds.
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Oh shit, you follow Tylearn?
But he only really mentioned for Metal Low Multi and Immeasurable. Not too far off tbh. Especially since he didn't go in-depth into the cosmology (not like he needed to).
Tbh, I told him the statement should only be applied to Base Sonic villains at best. Ig he overlooked that part lol. Regardless, Metal folds.
Tbh, it isn't the first time an Adventure-Era (06 is sorta Adventure Era) threat was being mogged by Base Form characters. Just look at Perfect Chaos or Metal Overlord. All I'm saying is that if this wiki takes the statement of 06's "these robots are the strongest Eggman's ever made" even when compared to Sonic Advance 3 stuff, then it should definitely take the Infinite statements as well.
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Ya the only counter argument I could think of is some Sonic frontiers promotional statement that said the Titans are on par with final bosses from earlier titles. I might be misremembering that so take it with a grain of salt. But if that statement is real it contradicts the notion that Infinite is the strongest pre frontiers due to the scaling chain I made.
All prior enemies < Infinite < Death Egg Robot = Titans
That can't be true since base Sonic can damage the Death Egg Robot but not the Titans. This scaling chain is made with the assumption that the Death Egg Robot is the strongest final boss due to the Infinite statements.
Meanwhile if Solaris or Egg Wizard or Time Eater are the strongest final bosses it would look like this.
Base Sonic villains < Infinite < Death Egg Robot < Time Eater, Egg wizard, Solaris = Titans
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Sonic at the very least is relative to Perfect Chaos and maybe Phantom King
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I just assume the Titans are just so far above previous bosses in that instance that it didn't matter how strong Base Sonic was.
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That would make sense if they were made to fight The End, given it treats all the previous bosses like a joke
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Titans are easily >>>>> any previous boss. Frontiers was stated to be Sonic's biggest adventure, and even Giganto was said to be the biggest threat he had EVER faced.
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The literal best you can argue for Solaris is a stalemate tbh.
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But temporal omniprescence though?
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The End eats him across all time so gg
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Solaris gets BTFOed by conceptual destruction, information attacking, fate haxed out, and just being on lower-dimensional timing and there's nothing Solaris can do to defend.
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Yeah, both his main and other one for Cobra Kai lol.Oh shit, you follow Tylearn?
I mean, he did briefly showcase the infinite cosmology statement from Tails but seemed to heavily decontextualize it tbh. Even so, that's still higher than where we scale the base cast on here. Hell, we still don't even scale Infinite to Modern Super Sonic level bosses.
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Me who thinks how reasonable the statements and scaling are come down to a very nuanced mix of objectivity and subjectivity.
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Oh how long you been following him? Ty is actually a really close friend of mine irl.
But like I said, I did tell him the Infinite statement should only apply to Bade Sonic villains but ig he overlooked that. What’s crazy is he didn’t even use half the shit I sent.
I didn’t appreciate the shoutout he gave to my boy Espio though. He didn’t think he was gonna use the scans of him copying the Rivals’ characters’ powers.
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Assuming that first one is true, we NEED these statements about the Titans to be linked for ease of access. Tired of hearing the occasional Solaris glaze in the wild
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well, this took alot of timeBumbleKast in 2025 | BumbleKing
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For the best honestly, people gotta learn that Ian is not gonna give good answers to vs questions if you ask him.
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I don't think VS mattered at all (Although the increase in such questions definitely didn't help). But at least on Twitter and Youtube, there started to be a lot of discourse distorting his words and starting improbable expectations about his work, which eventually scaled to terrible heights.
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Thankfully powerscaling addicted people will be silenced.
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Well that sucks, but it's understandable I suppose.BumbleKast in 2025 | BumbleKing
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Not going to lie: I was hoping to ask him about if he could provide information about how a portal to the movie Sonic universe ended up in White Space and if it had something to do with Black Doom or not. It'll probably be answered when December 12th rolls around, but still unfortunate.
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The best kind of powerscaling is the powerscaling I make up in my head LMAO
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This is excellent news, to be hoenst.BumbleKast in 2025 | BumbleKing
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So no more Archie-related questions?BumbleKast in 2025 | BumbleKing
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does this mean that Bumblekast is.....technically viable WoG for Sonic now?BumbleKast in 2025 | BumbleKing
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Or maybe not, Geb is a persistent man
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You know, I’m thinking there’s a pretty real chance this might be Shadow’s only appearance in the movie continuity, I think they’re gonna commit to killing Shadow off here.
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Shadow spin-off was already confirmed.
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I really don't think so.
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Tv spots on they’re way to leak everything good
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They’re doing a shadow spinoff
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Would be cool, but I highly doubt it
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