Is this Low 2-C or 4-B?

[ByArrow]

There is a space that is one in the size of the solar system and this space has its own timeline. Does this area count as low 2c because it has a timeline or is it only 4b?

 

[SeijiSetto]

Only 4-B.
As it is now, the definition of Low 2-C specifies that the space has to be of universal size.

Low 2-C: Universe level+​

Characters or objects that are capable of significantly affecting,[1] creating, and/or destroying an area of space qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums (the entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) of a universal scale. However, it can be more generally fulfilled by any 4-dimensional space that is either: [...]

 

[ByArrow]

Only 4-B.
As it is now, the definition of Low 2-C specifies that the space has to be of universal size.

if the timeline goes infinitely into the future, does this timeline count as H 3-A?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It's only 4-B atm, I heard there are disputes where mini spaced timelines may need to be treated higher, but it's been harder to judge. Though, I do think a large collection of pocket realities that each have their own flow of time. Like if there were 1.04x10^23 number of baseline 3-B sized pocket dimensions that each had their only flow of time, it be Low 2-C, with twice that many reaching 2-C or multiplying that same formula by 1001 being 2-B. And of course an infinite number of time flows regardless of individual size would still be 2-A. Our baseline for Low 2-C is that there is a combination of a minimum 3-A levels of 3-D dimensional space and a timestream.

 

[ByArrow]

It's only 4-B atm, I heard there are disputes where mini spaced timelines may need to be treated higher, but it's been harder to judge. Though, I do think a large collection of pocket realities that each have their own flow of time. Like if there were 1.04x10^23 number of baseline 3-B sized pocket dimensions that each had their only flow of time, it be Low 2-C, with twice that many reaching 2-C or multiplying that same formula by 1001 being 2-B. And of course an infinite number of time flows regardless of individual size would still be 2-A. Our baseline for Low 2-C is that there is a combination of a minimum 3-A levels of 3-D dimensional space and a timestream.

if the timeline goes infinitely into the future, does this timeline count as H 3-A?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

if the timeline goes infinitely into the future, does this timeline count as H 3-A?

Not necesarily, even basic timelines are default assumption to go infinitely into the future by default. Or even pocket realities with flows of time have that. But multiple flows of time is a different story.

 

[Georredannea15]

There is a space that is one in the size of the solar system and this space has its own timeline. Does this area count as low 2c because it has a timeline or is it only 4b?

I guess Ultima was going to address that for Low 2-C because basically a timeline, whatever its size, contains uncountable infinite snapshots from the 3D space it contains. It means Low 2-C, but the current standards say that for space-time continua to be Low 2-C, space has to be of universal sized. So, it's just 4-D for now.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

The issue is realms that have their own distinct time axis being limited by the spatial size, not necessarily pocket spacetime dimensions , as it honestly makes no sense to limit a time axis based on spatial size, when the time axis itself is infinite. THis wouldn't apply to a pocket or adjacent spacetime without proof of it's own unique time axis tho

 

[CloverDragon03]

Yeah, this would be 4-B since the space isn't universe-sized. The timeline going infinitely into the future is just a default assumption of timelines in general, and it doesn't change the fact that the space component isn't universal in size

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yeah, this would be 4-B since the space isn't universe-sized. The timeline going infinitely into the future is just a default assumption of timelines in general, and it doesn't change the fact that the space component isn't universal in size

This would be a different story if that space was stated to contain/be a Space-Time

 

[CloverDragon03]

This would be a different story if that space was stated to contain/be a Space-Time

Nope. Destroying a solar system-sized space-time would still be 4-B, not Low 2-C

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Nope. Destroying a solar system-sized space-time would still be 4-B, not Low 2-C

• When is the destruction or creation of a universe or timeline ranked as low 2-C?

In accordance with the established Tiering System, an event that results in the destruction or creation of a universe or timeline is ranked as Low 2-C (Universe level+). This designation requires that the affected area encompasses a substantial four-dimensional space, exhibits qualitative superiority over three-dimensional spaces, or comprises the entire space-time continuum. To meet these criteria, the entire timeline must be destroyed or created, taking into account all moments in time.

 

[CloverDragon03]

I'm aware. "Substantial four-dimensional space" in this context means one that is at least universal in size

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I'm aware. "Substantial four-dimensional space" in this context means one that is at least universal in size

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