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Servants LS Revision

Migue79

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Hello, everyone. Migue79 here to bring you all another Nasuverse revision. This should be rather straightforward ig...

This calc got accepted which puts Ruler Jeanne's LS at Class M. For the scaling, I propose that every Servant gets this rating.

That's basically all there is to this revision lol
 
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Seems pretty straightforward

Also it doesn't really matter what Rank their strength stat is with the way they work in Canon this'll end up scaling to everyone. Great stuff though. On the topic of LS though have you ever considered calcing Mash lifting talos off the ground
 
Hello, everyone. Migue79 here to bring you all another Nasuverse revision. This should be rather straightforward ig...

This calc got accepted which puts Ruler Jeanne's LS at Class M. For the scaling, I propose that anyone with B-Rank Strength and higher gets this LS upgrade as well. Of course, if Servants have feats of grappling her or anyone that has B-Rank Strength (or higher), they also get the scaling. But if anyone's got other (and hopefully better) suggestions for scaling, go on ahead and propose them.

That's basically all there is to this revision lol
Seems straightforward to me.
 
Seems pretty straightforward

Also it doesn't really matter what Rank their strength stat is with the way they work in Canon this'll end up scaling to everyone. Great stuff though. On the topic of LS though have you ever considered calcing Mash lifting talos off the ground
I… Have not.

If that could get Class M as well, it could be used for further consistency. I’ll do it whenever I’ve got the proper time, tho. :p
 
No issue here. Very straightforward. Would think this wouldn't be controversial at all.

And like @FallenMaou2234 said, stat ranks given in verse typically don't matter. Servants of lower stats overpower higher stat servants all the time
The difference was never huge or anything. You can check both F/Zero and F/SN for blatant proof.

Anyway small rant over
 
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No issue here. Very straightforward. Would think this wouldn't be controversial at all.

And like @FallenMaou2234 said, stat ranks given in verse typically don't matter. Servants of lower stats overpower higher stat servants all the time
The difference was never huge or anything. You can check both F/Zero and F/SN for blatant proof.

Anyone small rant over
I mainly said it in the OP since we literally use parameters to justify shit all of the time for the profiles (see any NP with an A+ rating and above & the speed ratings). But if LS’s an exception, sure. Everyone gets the scaling (even Medea of all people lol)

Stat & NP parameters are only accurate when the story wants it to be to begin with anyway, so I honestly personally think we shouldn’t just use stat parameters to justify the ratings of the profiles at all including NP ones.
 
Stat & NP parameters are only accurate when the story wants it to be to begin with anyway, so I honestly personally think we shouldn’t just use stat parameters to justify the ratings of the profiles at all including NP ones.
Yeah I think most have come around to this by now
 
Should prolly notify a staff member? Doesn't seem contentious or anything and is incredibly straightforward. Pretty much everyone agreed that commented
 
I mainly said it in the OP since we literally use parameters to justify shit all of the time for the profiles (see any NP with an A+ rating and above & the speed ratings). But if LS’s an exception, sure. Everyone gets the scaling (even Medea of all people lol)

Stat & NP parameters are only accurate when the story wants it to be to begin with anyway, so I honestly personally think we shouldn’t just use stat parameters to justify the ratings of the profiles at all including NP ones.
Well as far as using stats for scaling purposes it think that's fine because Servants are generally portrayed as being relative to each other more or less.

And there are other instances in Canon where stats do indeed play a part like with Berserker (F/SN) being able to stand up to all six Servants all at once due to stats or Archer generally being slower and weaker than Cu(At full tilt) and Artoria(Under Rin) so it's not like it's inaccurate to scale them using stats either.

It's just that stats tend to matter when they need to rather than all the time but yeah it's the best thing we have otherwise God knows how wed scale all the Servants on this wiki
 
Well as far as using stats for scaling purposes it think that's fine because Servants are generally portrayed as being relative to each other more or less.

And there are other instances in Canon where stats do indeed play a part like with Berserker (F/SN) being able to stand up to all six Servants all at once due to stats or Archer generally being slower and weaker than Cu(At full tilt) and Artoria(Under Rin) so it's not like it's inaccurate to scale them using stats either.

It's just that stats tend to matter when they need to rather than all the time but yeah it's the best thing we have otherwise God knows how wed scale all the Servants on this wiki
I mean honestly even in F/SN its weird. Archer also manages to take half of Berserker's lives on his own

There's also the famous scene of Archer killing Gilgamesh despite having little mana left.
 
I mean honestly even in F/SN its weird. Archer also manages to take half of Berserker's lives on his own

There's also the famous scene of Archer killing Gilgamesh despite having little mana left.
And then you got Shirou with Archer's arm pwning both Berserker and Salter (the latter is in one of the bad ends). Like... wtf, Nasu.
 
I’ll go ahead and tag, uh…

@CrimsonStarFallen Sorry if I’m bothering you, but could you please comment your thoughts? Thanks!
Oh forgot to say, only staff members can tag someone. So if anyone else tags someone, the ping won't be received.
You'd have to notify someone on their message wall for them to be notified.
 
Why do people keep assuming CGM’s are not staff members graaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Also, I’m a he for reference.

I’ll go ahead and tag another staff member that might be willing to give input here. @DemonGodMitchAubin
 
Why do people keep assuming CGM’s are not staff members graaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Not anymore you are. Gimme dat brown tag
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I did the Jeanne 'sisters' first and I'm already feeling mentally exhausted. ;-;
 
Thank you for helping out. Tell us here when I should close this thread.
 
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