Possible upgrade for rimuru

[ImmortalDread]

Yea I do, but the info we have on it rn have to most probable outcome of linear time as the other way is absurd for that statement

We can't currently use the info that we have and interpret it in another way with no context.

It's pretty clear tho, being unaffected of space-time means you are not bounded by the laws of space and time or you exist outside of it without being dependent on it

I won't argue with this. I will give threads links and learn why being unaffected by space-time does not grant you immeasurable speed.
Heck, you even created the headcanon and say it's unbounded by the laws of space and time, when in the context nothing refers to it.
Immeasurable speed is not for speed beyond time and space, I don’t know where you got that from.
It is for speed where time is undefined, e.g., attacking someone in the past and the future or movements in a space with two or more temporal dimensions.

And if you still argue after reading all threads, you are wasting time.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/is-time-same-as-linear-time.138788/

https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-remains-of-the-tiering-revision-part-3.126818/page-4#post-4874465

https://vsbattles.com/threads/immeasurable-speed-question.118938/

https://vsbattles.com/threads/tier-2-requirements-and-examples-revision.124078/page-3#post-5077485

https://vsbattles.com/threads/immeasurable-speed-sailor-moon.132629/page-6#post-4626780

 

[Sisyphusx]

Not familiar with the verse but This looks alright to me, if official.

That is from LN vol. 17 chapter 2
it's not official translation but i'm sure that it's valid cause the otherworld is clearly stated to transcend time

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

MTL?

 

[Reiner04]

That is from LN vol. 17 chapter 2
it's not official translation but i'm sure that it's valid cause the otherworld is clearly stated to transcend time

Then waiting is what can be done ig.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Bruh whatt!?
You strawmanned my points or you don't understand info particles in the first place. they are not some haxx/ability, "information particles" are unbounded by space-time and can trasmit information to any point in time
From where does it look like time manipulation!? Hein?
Now if you understand what information particles are

Rimuru is a digital life form that is made up of the very information particles mentioned above making him unbounded by space-time and capable of physically (by sheer speed) travelling to any point in time.
There is no haxx/ability, there is no time manipulation

Speed? Where it was shown? Again need more context.

 

[Sisyphusx]

I won't argue with this. I will give threads links and learn why being unaffected by space-time does not grant you immeasurable speed.
Heck, you even created the headcanon and say it's unbounded by the laws of space and time when in the context nothing refers to it.

I didn't said being unaffected by space-time is immeasurable speed my point was based on info particles being capable of transmitting info to any point in time tho it need more context I agree on that

I said that based on how Suspended world works

Immeasurable speed is not for speed beyond time, I don’t know where you got that from

D-did I said that?

 

[Sisyphusx]

Speed? Where it was shown? Again need more context.

Welp Info particles aren't haxx or ability etc. Traveling by them is raw speed
I know we need more context, but not on this but on the argument I was having with dread

 

[ImmortalDread]

I didn't said being unaffected by space-time is immeasurable speed my point was based on info particles being capable of transmitting info to any point in time tho it need more context I agree on that

I said that based on how Suspended world works

Thankfully, you understood and agreed. Also, transmitting info to any point in time means the transmission time is the amount of time from the beginning until the end of a message transmission.

D-did I said that?

Edited

 

[Sisyphusx]

And ig this thread was pointless as we can not do any changes on rimuru's profile because where the abilities are coming from isn't officially translated volume

 

[Sisyphusx]

Edited

Wym?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Wym?

Ignore it. Superfluous

 

[Tempestdragon6]

I guess we should just wait for volume 15 that will upgrade rimuru tier

 

[091Franky]

No meaning of arguing rn, Digital beings are still mystery in verse. Next vol or the next of that will make it clear since rimuru is thrown somewhere probably end of time same as wn and how he will return will make it whether it'll be immeasurable, infinite or ftl.
Also these things can be discussed on discussion thread or if you still want to upgrade rimuru using mtl then first add his true dragon key

 

[Robo432343]

disagreed FRA

 

[Demon_King]

@Demon_King

This scan can also be helpful in your scaling, tho this is from vol. 17

Cool

 

[Demon_King]

disagreed FRA

Reason ?

 

[Mr_Nobody]

Thankfully, you understood and agreed. Also, transmitting info to any point in time means the transmission time is the amount of time from the beginning until the end of a message transmission.

bruhhh info particle is something like present everywhere, wherever you'll go, it'll be there and it's something like quantum particles cuz info particle's mass is zero btw all these shit are written in unofficially translated light novel lmao

https://media.**********.net/attach...726548/Screenshot_20200803-131157_Lithium.jpg

 

[ImmortalDread]

bruhhh info particle is something like present everywhere, wherever you'll go, it'll be there and it's something quantum particles cuz info particle is zero btw all these shit are written in unofficially translated light novel lmao

The context literally said otherwise, and it is about communication, idk from where you get your info.

 

[Mr_Nobody]

The context literally said otherwise, and it is about communication, idk from where you get your info.

https://media.**********.net/attach...726548/Screenshot_20200803-131157_Lithium.jpg

 

[ImmortalDread]

https://media.**********.net/attach...726548/Screenshot_20200803-131157_Lithium.jpg

Alright, where it talks about speed? Moving? Heck, that's information manipulation

 

[ImmortalDread]

And matter manipulation since the verse treat it as atom as well.

 

[Mr_Nobody]

why don't you try to debate him lmao

 

[Mr_Nobody]

And matter manipulation since the verse treat it as atom as well.

lmao atoms do have mass but info particles nearly doesn't have

 

[ImmortalDread]

lmao atoms do have mass but info particles nearly doesn't have

What does this have to do with anything I said?

 

[Demon_King]

why don't you try to debate him lmao

He is one of the most useless youtubers that i ever debated
Bro said crimson guy can solo whole MGK verse
I have debated him and destroyed him atleast 2 to 3 debates later i didn't got single response from him

 

[ImmortalDread]

He is one of the most useless youtubers that i ever debated
Bro said crimson guy can solo whole MGK verse
I have debated him and destroyed him atleast 2 to 3 debates later i didn't got single response from him

Well done, soldier.

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

why don't you try to debate him lmao

lolz

 

[Mr_Nobody]

He is one of the most useless youtubers that i ever debated
Bro said crimson guy can solo whole MGK verse
I have debated him and destroyed him atleast 2 to 3 debates later i didn't got single response from him

any proof? cuz I want to send him and break his claim of never getting defeated in debates

 

[ImmortalDread]

any proof? cuz I want to send him and break his claim of never getting defeated in debates

There is no such thing as called "never getting defeated in debates"

 

[Mr_Nobody]

There is no such thing as called "never getting defeated in debates"

bruhh he say that in his server + everyone there accept his scales lmao

 

[ImmortalDread]

bruhh he say that in his server + everyone there accept his scales lmao

Not like I care, no one is perfect. Grow up.

 

[Mr_Nobody]

Not like I care, no one is perfect. Grow up.

didn't asked

 

[ImmortalDread]

Imao