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It's not "vice versa" for me because I never said that CSRC was conclusively superior to Saitama's normal punches. But if you have to ask, the primary evidence would be the fact that Saitama used his SP in the first place. If he felt like he could've taken out CSRC with a casual punch or a couple, then he would have done so. But he didn't, which somewhat narratively implies that collapsing star roaring canon is equal or at least comparable to the CNP. Then again, it is entirely possible that not all normal punches are equal to each other, and he puts more or less effort depending on who he's fighting.
That's not true at all.

Saitama used SP against Elder Centipede. Does that make EC superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?

Saitama used SP against Evil Ocean Water. Does make EOW superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?

Obviously not.
 
That's not true at all.

Saitama used SP against Elder Centipede. Does that make EC superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?

Saitama used SP against Evil Ocean Water. Does make EOW superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?

Obviously not.
Serious punch has a much larger AOE.
 
That's not true at all.

Saitama used SP against Elder Centipede. Does that make EC superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?

Saitama used SP against Evil Ocean Water. Does make EOW superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?

Obviously not.
No, obviously Sonic is just 5-A for surviving a serious attack smh smh
 
Read the chapter. He stated there's no enemy he can't beat with normal punches, so saying he needed to use a Serious Punch on the CSRC is objectively incorrect.

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I'm not a Boros fanboy or anything, but we know now that this can't be accurate, considering the fact that Saitama wasn't able to overpower Garou with his CNP
 
tats is already pretty deep in the base and psykos isn't at the very bottom but yeah...
I mean, Psykos never said that she's 1.5 km underground relative to Tatsumaki's position. Just that she's 1.k km underground in general.
 
I'm not a Boros fanboy or anything, but we know now that this can't be accurate, considering the fact that Saitama wasn't able to overpower Garou with his CNP
The fight just started 1 chapter ago bruh + Saitama was holding back + Garou literally copied Saitama's strength
 
That's not true at all.
Why?
Saitama used SP against Elder Centipede. Does that make EC superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?
Saitama used SP against EC because he was pissed that he lost to King in a video game, this was shown explicitly.
Saitama used SP against Evil Ocean Water. Does make EOW superior to the 5-A normal punches Saitama used against Garou?
No, because Saitama had never previously fought or interacted with Evil Natural Water, so he wasn't fully aware of it's threat level. He literally made a Beeline for ENW and oneshot him upon eye contact to end the battle quickly

BTW, keep in mind here, I'm aware that it's entirely possible that not all normal and serious punches have the same level of power behind them.
 
The fight just started 1 chapter ago bruh
Yes, and he was clearly unable to overpower Garou with his casual punches. How is this a reponse?
Saitama was holding back
Saitama always holds back, that's not the point, and neither did I disagree. Saitama was literally unable to overpower Garou with his normal punches, and they were sent flying in opposite directions of each other by the end of the exchange, which directly implies that Garou is likely equal to anything that Saitama could produce casually. AKA, he needs to use something in his serious series to defeat Garou
Garou literally copied Saitama's strength
Point still applies. He was unable to defeat someone with his Casual Series, therefore his previous statement was incorrect and should be ignored or at least be taken loosely
 
I can understand that there are Tatsumaki fans who keep wanting to scale her for whatever character, or spend entire days discussing about the same things about her, after all, she is a recurring character in the series. Now about Boros I just don't understand why a lot of people are doing rhetorical juggling to scale him for whatever feat. The character appeared for a short time and he's not even very charismatic, he was just there to have a nice fight and then be obliterated by Saitama... Liking him is normal and understandable, but being a fan to the point of spending weeks discussing the same thing is something that doesn't enter my head...
 
Only in a retroactive sense. If you say you've never been hit by a car in 2010 and then get hit by a car in 2020, was your statement wrong in 2010?

God boi Garou didn't even exist before now.
Not trying to scale or anything, but didn't that old statement between Boros and Garou mentioned that Garou would have an advantage in close combat while Boros has the better range options ?

If yes, the manga changed that by a freaking lot
 
Only in a retroactive sense. If you say you've never been hit by a car in 2010 and then get hit by a car in 2020, was your statement wrong in 2010?
This is a strong argument, but the wording Saitama used doesn't go about it in a retroactive sense. He says "But There're no enemies I can't beat with normal punches", not "But There're no enemies that I couldn't have beat with normal punches".

The Former statement (the one originating from the source material) implies that Saitama believed that he could literally defeat any enemy with normal punches, and we now know that's incorrect
 
Murata also said that the Garou fight would be in a higher scale than the Boros fight. And this statement cane after this one by like an year.
 
He says "But There're no enemies I can't beat with normal punches", not "But There're no enemies that I couldn't have beat with normal punches".
Yeah, because based on his experiences… there hasn’t been an opponent he couldn’t beat with normal punches.

Garou doesn’t contradict that.
 
This is a strong argument, but the wording Saitama used doesn't go about it in a retroactive sense. He says "But There're no enemies I can't beat with normal punches", not "But There're no enemies that I couldn't have beat with normal punches".

The Former statement (the one originating from the source material) implies that Saitama believed that he could literally defeat any enemy with normal punches.
Which doesn't really change my argument because he's only basing that statement on the enemies that he faced and obliterated. It's like claiming a rope is unbreakable until it you invent something to break it; that doesn't mean you were wrong at the time, just that your statement doesn't hold up in the present.

And he's right about that. He didn't say 'will never be', either. His statement was entirely correct at that point in time because Garou didn't even become a monster.

Saitama's whole goal in life is also to look for an enemy that can genuinely excite and harm him. So it doesn't really make sense for him to be ultra-absolutist about this kind of thing.
 
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Murata says he doesn't know if it's correct but its his interpretation that Boros takes the lead in the fight when he kicks Saitama to the moon.

 
A friend of mine asked me why in vs battle Boros wasn't FTL when he was superior to Flahy flash. Can you guys tell me why?
 
Murata says he doesn't know if it's correct but its his interpretation that Boros takes the lead in the fight when he kicks Saitama to the moon.


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I don't know if this is the right move, but I think it is a very dynamic action scene in which Boros counters and kicks Saitama after knocking him down from the sky.

DOES THIS MEANS THAT GAROU DID A SIMILAR THING AND SENT SAITAMA TO JUPITER?
 
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