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It was an unquantifiable energy attack that was inspired by a GRB. Not a literal one.
Garou literally spends a previous page noting how some material arts are inspired by certain things. Snek doesn’t literally turn his arms into snakes.
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Garou literally spends a previous page noting how some material arts are inspired by certain things. Snek doesn’t literally turn his arms into snakes.
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This is a fusion of every character lol he's gonna scale above the best feat.
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I think I can see @Worthless point: since Saitama resisted Tatsumaki's full power before (accepted as a possibility rn at the wiki), yet called Boros strong, "the strongest he's met so far", Boros should scale
I don't think it's correct, though. Saitama didn't even sense Tatsumaki's power iirc, so he may not use it as comparison, and they technically didn't fight
I don't think it's correct, though. Saitama didn't even sense Tatsumaki's power iirc, so he may not use it as comparison, and they technically didn't fight
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No one knows what you’re talking, because what you’re talking is baseless, makes no sense and is a headcanon inside your brain you can’t explain.
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And the best feat isn’t 4C.
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Garou literally taps into the flow/physics of the universe and can generate fission.
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It’s also important to note he did not see Tatsumaki as a combatant, as all he could feel was his clothes tightening. Tatsumaki also wasn’t actually fighting otherwise she’d pick up a nearby mountain and drop it on him.
If Mob Psycho is anything to go by, exorcism and telekinesis are pretty different. She tried to exorcism him, which wouldn’t really work on humans anyway.
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Saitama wasn't aware he was being attacked, so no that's not valid scaling. Saitama calling Boros the "the strongest I've ever fought" ain't relevant to Tatsumaki if they never fought.
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The gap between ”small scale fission explosion” and “literal black hole” is PRETTY big.
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no it isnt
it is from his all life eradication fist, which recreates the force of the universe perfectly
It creates nuclear fission and we get a warning of a nuclear attack
what you are referring to his is mode change, which is separate from all life eradication fist
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Likely Buu Saga. There's pretty sufficient evidence that OPM verse will peak above solar system level, seeing as Garou is debatably already reaching it. And only the two top tiers of the Cell Saga are finally reaching that level. The fusion is probably stopping at Fat Buu, or somewhere in early Buu Saga. Definitely not clearing it.
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You'd be correct.
If it was just a name and the narrator didn't go out of his way to expose the comparison between the two, and if Garou didn't create a nuclear fission with his attacked, named the same.
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Which is why Saitama felt the need to stop this attack hitting the ground at all costs.
He's outright replicated the flow of energy across the universe and fundamental forces.
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It's a possibly key, which means we can debate with it.
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Everyone also forgets Saitama said “MAYBE the strongest I’ve ever fought” to Genos in regards to Boros.
Saitama himself, literally does not know how strong he is compared to his previous opponents. Boros only ever survived as long as he did because Saitama related to him on some level.
Saitama himself, literally does not know how strong he is compared to his previous opponents. Boros only ever survived as long as he did because Saitama related to him on some level.
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But he can build nuclear. Or would you say that it's just a martial art? What?
GodlyCharmander
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Not at all. Super Perfect Cell is hundreds of times above baseline 4-B, and SSJ2 Gohan is twice as strong as that. The fusion clears everyone before that though.
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Tatsumaki did the same for Psykorochi’s beams. This Saitama point isn’t relevant. Saitama can’t sense energy.
No, it says he’s “gained the knowledge of” not “LITERAL HAS ALL THE POWER IN THE UNIVERSE”
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It’s stated by the narrator that Garou understands all of universe’s flow of energy and behavior and immediately proceeds to create atomic bombs through nuclear fission. I highly doubt it’s not supposed to be literal when everything implies it is. It’s complete headcanon to think Garou can create real nuclear attacks with his hax but believe his GRB is somehow not an actual GRB.
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That's not what Asura said, at all.
Garou can use fundemantal forces of the universe, not necessarily on the same scale, but it's the actual thing, the actual phenomenon. The narrator outright says so, and it's proven to be the case by Garou's past accomplishments with the nuclear fission out of thin air.
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The point is that it's on a far wider scale than nuclear attacks.
It's clearly intended to be that way. In the raws, Saitama has the same wording as the prophecy.
I didn't say he did. I said he tapped into it.
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Chose uses similar energy balls that Homeless and Garou does, and his ultimate move is ”Inferior Race Eradication Attack”. So Choze now a god level threat? After all, he can eradicate the inferior race (aka, anything that isn’t him) in one attack.
Garou is smart now and has energy attacks. That’s all we know.
We, however, do not know how his current energy attacks stack against the real thing.
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Chose doesn't create natural forces with his attacks, nor does he create actual nuclear reaction from said attacks, so in his case, it would just be a named attack.
You're comparing apples and oranges.
"That's all we know", it's not. You're ignoring lines of the chapter for the sake of your agenda.
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I mean, invisibility + matter manip at an atomic level + trillions of clones each one with passive resurrection alone most likely clears up to Buu Saga at least
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Garou hasn’t “tapped into it” tho. That’s never said.
He just “has knowledge of” it, + has energy manipulation now.
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Laughs in MFTL+ and Extrasensory Perception/Ki Sensing
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Wai-, I'm always assuming speed is equalized
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I didn't say he could use all the universe's knowledge. I'm saying he's become an extension of the flow, which is stated.
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Those are two completely different things, Garou is referring to Shakkei in martial arts, in which the martial artists imitates the movements of living things.
He is creating authentic Gamma Ray Bursts through his tapped power and knowledge, I don't care about its size we can calculate it through inverse-square law.
Would you mind reading the chapter one more time, but more slowly this time?
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Wait, If Garou became ONE with the became ONE with flow of energy and can control it and said energy could possibly be referring to the flow of all the energy and behavior in the universe, couldn’t that imply 3-A?
I guess we will see in the coming chapters.
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Garou will use a miniature version of the Big Bang, and he will become "4-B, likely 3-A".
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Pretty Sure we don`t assume Tatsumaki can use exorcism even if that`s a general ability for espers in Mob Psycho.
For one we have never seen a ghost or any truly spiritual phenomenom in OPM (other than maybe phoenixman`s mindscape if mind:soul for ONE), Then there`s Tatsumaki being afraid of ghosts because she`s not sure if her powers would work on them. If she could use exorcism and knew to do so immediately upon seeing a ghost... why would she fear her powers not working on them?
And then we see Mob use exorcism on an old lady he mistook for a ghost and there`s absolutely no effect(like not even the psychic aura around her his TK does), while Saitama could feel his clothes tightening and his hair follicules being pulled.
For one we have never seen a ghost or any truly spiritual phenomenom in OPM (other than maybe phoenixman`s mindscape if mind:soul for ONE), Then there`s Tatsumaki being afraid of ghosts because she`s not sure if her powers would work on them. If she could use exorcism and knew to do so immediately upon seeing a ghost... why would she fear her powers not working on them?
And then we see Mob use exorcism on an old lady he mistook for a ghost and there`s absolutely no effect(like not even the psychic aura around her his TK does), while Saitama could feel his clothes tightening and his hair follicules being pulled.
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food for thought, god had minor implications of this
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ive seen other translations swap outer space for universe for this page as well
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ive seen other translations swap outer space for universe for this page as well
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90% of the fandom know shit about powerlevels just like you, it's simple as that
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When the revisions come we need to revise Saitama's AP description since it'll be 90% redundant. It was justified to keep all of the different feats since they were on similar levels but with this new jump they're unnecessary. They should all go on his Feats section.
We should also fix his "Feats" section to only include Saitama's more notable feats (Blowing up the meteor, destroying Elder Centipede, killing Gouketsu, Boros, Orochi, Evil Ocean Water, etc) and also just his manga continuity feats.
We should also fix his "Feats" section to only include Saitama's more notable feats (Blowing up the meteor, destroying Elder Centipede, killing Gouketsu, Boros, Orochi, Evil Ocean Water, etc) and also just his manga continuity feats.
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