STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[King]

Why do they have At Least 7B in their monster key if Low 7B is the baseline?

 

[LordTracer]

Because in a previous revision, it was changed to make them scale directly to Flash, who has a 7-B rating.

 

[Peter1129]

Because Flashy Flash whom they scale to right now is at least 7-B.

If I’m being honest they probably don’t even need the low end of at least Low 7-B. Just make them At most High 7-A+ now that Flashy Flash also scales directly to 6-C.

 

[LordTracer]

Possibly at most High 7-A+ now that Flashy Flash also scales directly to 6-C.

That’s gross though
The At most seems unnecessary, they’re already downscaling.

 

[Peter1129]

Yeah either just make them At most High 7-A+ or Possibly High 7-A+ I guess

 

[King]

Yeah either just make them At most High 7-A+ or Possibly High 7-A+ I guess

Yeah, that works better. 7 B just seems wrong cause FF can't be holding back that much.

 

[LordTracer]

7 B just seems wrong cause FF can't be holding back that much.

I said At least Low 7-B because that’s where they’d be based on their own feats/scaling that doesn’t revolve around downscaling from someone that wasn’t at full strength.

 

[Peter1129]

Also that reminds me we probably could upgrade the ninjas human form to At least High 7-C, possibly Low 7-B since they did manage to do some damage to Brave Giant in the redraw while being in human form as well as tank Brave Giant’s Gigavolt Smash relatively unharmed. Oh right one more thing the lake vaporization needs to be removed from their profile as it has been retconned due to the redraws.

 

[ImposingTiger]

(Can harm a suppressed Flashy Flash)

Flash being suppressed doesn't mean his durability decreases, it remains constant.

 

[LordTracer]

The majority of profiles on the wiki don’t fully scale you to harming someone if they’re suppressed so…

 

[ImposingTiger]

I guess they are wrong then.

 

[LordTracer]

Mm, no, it makes a lot more sense to fully downscale someone instead of saying their AP fully scale to the holding back character’s durability, even when said holding back character can still overpower them.

 

[Phoenks]

Hey guys why are we talking about downscaling ninjas to High 7-A+? Would it not just be baseline 6-C if anything?

 

[LordTracer]

Hey guys why are we talking about downscaling ninjas to High 7-A+? Would it not just be baseline 6-C if anything?

The 6-C calc is close enough to baseline for the ninjas to downscale to High 7-A+.

 

[Phoenks]

The 6-C calc is close enough to baseline for the ninjas to downscale to High 7-A+.

I think it would make more sense and be more useful to rate them as baseline 6-C, rather than some arbitrary High 7-A+ number. Unless you plan on downscaling them all the way down to baseline High 7-A+

 

[LordTracer]

I think it would make more sense and be more useful to rate them as baseline 6-C, rather than some arbitrary High 7-A+ number. Unless you plan on downscaling them all the way down to baseline High 7-A+

Yes, that’s usually how downscaling to a + rating works.

 

[Ourosboros]

I think it would make more sense and be more useful to rate them as baseline 6-C, rather than some arbitrary High 7-A+ number. Unless you plan on downscaling them all the way down to baseline High 7-A+

Well, the ninjas being stronger than Homeless Emperor and Golden Sperm is already weird, if we have to scale them to Garou we should be as conservative as possible- I think we all know if they fought Platinum (or the Garou that fought Platinum) they'd get wrecked reeeeaaaallly fast.

 

[LordTracer]

Also it should be noted that the only time they drew blood from Flash and clearly harmed him was when they hit him with a simultaneous combo. When they attacked him separately, the best they could do was knock him back.

And they couldn’t even do that sometimes.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I don't remember BS reacting to Atomic Samurai's attack and combat speed. Most of time BS couldn't even see the sword

 

[Tural2004]

I knew that someone was gonna show this but this is extremely casual Atomic

 

[NikHelton]

Did I miss something? Do we have a new calculation for 6-C?

 

[Magmag]

Did I miss something? Do we have a new calculation for 6-C?

The Garou ground smash where he threw thousands of rocks into the air got accepted.

 

[NikHelton]

Can you upload this calculation?

 

[Phoenks]

Can you upload this calculation?

iz on the front page of this thread!

 

[Epiccheev]

Can you upload this calculation?

Here

 

[Phoenks]

Here is the current thing.

I think I am forgetting a few things, not sure what though. As always, any help/suggestions r appreciated.

I didn't add the ninjas because I don't really know where to scale them lol.

I think "At most High 7-A+/6-C" could work

 

[LordTracer]

At most High 7-A+ or just High 7-A+ should work for the ninjas, but they definitely shouldn’t be 6-C.

Also unless I’m missing something, the High 6-B+ Sage Centipede calc has two rejections and only one approval so not sure if we can use that.

 

[LordTracer]

Also Pre-Awakening Garou should start with At least 7-B, because he definitely wasn’t 6-C against Bomb.

 

[Phoenks]

Also Pre-Awakening Garou should start with At least 7-B, because he definitely wasn’t 6-C against Bomb.

oh right. forgot about that.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

And what about Metal Bat ?

Also, I think EOW durability should be Unknown ? Just like ENW

 

[Ourosboros]

Here is the current thing.

I think I am forgetting a few things, not sure what though. As always, any help/suggestions r appreciated.

I didn't add the ninjas because I don't really know where to scale them lol.

I think "At most High 7-A+/6-C" could work

I would recommend the following.

• Pre-Awakening Garou= air manipulation (via Gouketsu's technique which is part of God Slayer), all the techniques listed in Monster God Slayer Fist, Monster Calamity God Slayer fist itself, possible poison manipulation via the poisonous ogre fist
• Platinum Sperm= resistance to Whirlwind/Cross Fang/Roaring Aura dura neg from God Slayer fist, possible poison resistance, new acrobatics ability, new attack deflection ability (via platinum rings), new platinum rings technique
• Flashy Flash= same resistances as Platinum, new flowing shadow feet technique, new flashy fist technique

 

[Magmag]

Also unless I’m missing something, the High 6-B+ Sage Centipede calc has two rejections and only one approval so not sure if we can use that.

Not rejections, Therefir has a problem with the time…which I think isn’t that great of an argument but whatever the result still yields the same key.
And the other “rejection” was, but is SC that big? Which again isn’t that great of an argument cuz Overview panels>in close fight panels. And 10% of SC scales shown above the surface already span across a large portion of Z city, as in the country size Z city not the city where there are actual building. So it’s “put off” until we get better angles of SC size which the next chapter should demonstrate a fully extended SC chasing his regen core.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

possible poison manipulation via the poisonous ogre fist

I don't think that's enough for even a "possibly"

 

[Nehz_XZX]

I would recommend the following.

• Pre-Awakening Garou= air manipulation (via Gouketsu's technique which is part of God Slayer), all the techniques listed in Monster God Slayer Fist, Monster Calamity God Slayer fist itself, possible poison manipulation via the poisonous ogre fist

When was it confirmed that Gouketsu's technique is part of the Monster Calamity God Slayer Fist?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Well they can do small damage to a 6-C (5.4 Gigatons) who is somewhat above baseline so you can either downscale them to baseline 6-C (4.3 Gigatons) or if you think it’s too high just downscale them to baseline High 7-A+ (2.65 Gigatons). Not sure if we can downscale them to baseline High 7-A (1 Gigaton) as the gap between baseline High 7-A and the 6-C calc is 5.4x which is kind of big.

We're down scaling them to baseline tho. They're just unquantifiably High 7-A+.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Average Human for Black Sperm because a child outran him owo

 

[NikHelton]

Regarding the time frame of the Sage feat. Now additional segments in 2 and 1.5 will be considered.

Obviously the 10 and 5 that Jason suggested is too much, given that we are talking about 1 frame, where the character spins incredibly fast

 

[NikHelton]

Average Human for Black Sperm because a child outran him owo

Average human for Kamikaze

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Consistent with Subsonic let's gooo

 

[NikHelton]

By the way, the end of 148 Teratons for Sage was accepted.