STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[Magmag]

I thought they weren't serious but it looks like I'm dumb.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

The real headcanon is assuming that they have to be the same. G4 has bending lasers, which all in all, they’re light except for the bending part which is a factor of G4 controlling them. G5 just shoots beams, no control whatsoever he lets them do there own thing. You’re logic is G4=G5(even though the allegedly stronger G5 is a thing) even though G5 is a massive upgrade from G4 as seen in multiple occasions.

Identical robots with similar design with no real notable aesthetic and an identical ”true form”.

G4 shoots lasers which bend.
G5 shoots identical lasers which may or may not bend, but since they were never in a scenario where they needed to bend, it’s kind of hard to tell which it is.

Again, err on the side of caution or be inaccurate. I prefer the first option.

G5 just has better lasers. “Different” lasers is something that can’t be proven, because we lack concrete information.

 

[Magmag]

Doesn’t boruto fully scale to Sasuke for harming him? What’s the difference between this and the ninja bros…

 

[Magmag]

Identical robots with similar design with no real notable aesthetic and an identical ”true form”.

identical…

G4 shoots lasers which bend.
G5 shoots identical lasers which may or may not bend, but since they were never in a scenario where they needed to bend, it’s kind of hard to tell which it is.

G5 has no control tho, he shot the beam, like shot, pew pew, not controlled it to go towards AS. He shot the beam to divert AS attention to escape, the beam was never controlled.

Again, err on the side of caution or be inaccurate. I prefer the first option.

G5 just has better lasers. “Different” lasers is something that can’t be proven, because we lack concrete information.

The concrete evidence is there, the only thing stopping it is people thinking it HAS to be G4’s beam.

 

[Ourosboros]

Darkshine is one of my favorite Heroes and he got humiliated so much this arc. Making me feel like a .

Darkshine is also one of my favorite heroes, I wanna seen him fight with those bones and put it all out on the line. GS did call it meager damage so it's something that can be fought through. And the acid hurt less than GS embarrassing Darkshine, if he was in agony he wouldn't have gasped at GS like he did

 

[Magmag]

Darkshine is also one of my favorite heroes, I wanna seen him fight with those bones and put it all out on the line. GS did call it meager damage so it's something that can be fought through. And the acid hurt less than GS embarrassing Darkshine, if he was in agony he wouldn't have gasped at GS like he did

Darkshine gets regen, bones heal and so does the acid scar. He then goes one to sumo slam sage centipede.

 

[ByAsura]

I can accept G4 and G5’s lasers, but HE is whack.

Genos says they’re mysterious light energy. He doesn’t say they’re real light or photons. He’s effectively calling them bright orbs.

They’re also so far from light that, even if they were light, I see absolutely no reason as to why these orbs commanded under HE’s own power should be SoL.

I’ve heard this argument before that HE is just manipulating the light to violate the laws of physics, but why do we assume they’re even light speed at that point?

 

[Magmag]

I can accept G4 and G4’s lasers, but HE is whack.

Double G4 gang yessir.

Genos says they’re mysterious light energy. He doesn’t say they’re real light or photons. He’s effectively calling them bright orbs.

They’re also so far from light that, even if they were light, I see absolutely no reason as to why these orbs commanded under HE’s own power should be SoL.

The major problem with HE is that no one could get in his range. Like no one could approach him until AS was possessed. All these atleast MHS guys were stalemated by a regular human. I’m not gonna argue for HE rn cause it is iffy but in the case that AS was the only guy able to get to HE before GS interrupted is the same AS that reacted to beams.

 

[ByAsura]

Didn’t Fuhrer Ugly manage to dodge a larger orb at some range, as well as Iaian and co reacting to smaller blasts?

Also, the fact that these orbs have no consistent speed should just annihilate the light speed argument, unless Blast is somehow helping with time dilation.

 

[Phoenks]

Should Garou's LS scale to the weight or LS of Sage Centipede given he was able to push him back?

Bang/Garou's current LS scales to Elder Centipede for the same kind of feat.

 

[ByAsura]

In that instance, he’d probably scale to the upper body.

 

[Phoenks]

In that instance, he’d probably scale to the upper body.

He'd be class T then, since his upper body did this pretty effortlessly. Her spear is accepted as class T.

 

[ByAsura]

Seems good.

 

[King]

Should Garou's LS scale to the weight or LS of Sage Centipede given he was able to push him back?

Bang/Garou's current LS scales to Elder Centipede for the same kind of feat.

Oh, this reminds me. Garou should be class T from my calc.

 

[Phoenks]

Oh, this reminds me. Garou should be class T from my calc.

Ah, more support for it then

 

[King]

Oh, this reminds me. Garou should be class T from my calc.

FF and PS scale.

 

[Ourosboros]

Should Garou's LS scale to the weight or LS of Sage Centipede given he was able to push him back?

Bang/Garou's current LS scales to Elder Centipede for the same kind of feat.

We'd have to calc the weight of the section he's moving, and I don't think it'll give higher results than Class T

EDIT: Ninja'd

 

[Tinodesu]

Am I the only one who feels that we are talking about the same things over and over again every time a new chapter comes up?,the topics and arguments are almost always the same

 

[Ourosboros]

Am I the only one who feels that we are talking about the same things over and over again every time a new chapter comes up?,the topics and arguments are almost always the same

Yes, we've been discussing the same feats and scaling as new calcs come out and alter them. This will change once we do the CRT

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Any scaling significance to Bang and Bomb feeling pretty confident that Garou could survive Tatsumaki’s tower spear, and that they could still fight him if he survived?

Bump for this.

 

[King]

The Lifting Strength of PS, FF and Pre-Awakening Garou(Pre -Sage Centipede) is 1.6161e+14 Kg (Class T).

Apart from that, I think we can scale Garou and MB to SC's lifting strength as they were able to push back against a full charge.

 

[Phoenks]

Tbh Sage Centipede stopped being a threat the moment Garou tanked his Grand March and EOW's Grand Canon. He literally got up like seconds after both of those attacks xD


He should've just given up after that

 

[Bernkastelll]

Tbh Sage Centipede stopped being a threat the moment Garou tanked his Grand March and EOW's Grand Canon. He literally got up like seconds after both of those attacks xD


He should've just given up after that

Saitama was around there it would never be a real treat

 

[Ourosboros]

Tbh Sage Centipede stopped being a threat the moment Garou tanked his Grand March and EOW's Grand Canon. He literally got up like seconds after both of those attacks xD


He should've just given up after that

This is pretty much true for any of Garou's enemies. Unless you have a similar kind of reactive evolution, once he matches your full power there's nothing to do except lose.

 

[EmilioRory10]

Doesn’t boruto fully scale to Sasuke for harming him? What’s the difference between this and the ninja bros…

Boruto is Moon Level, Sasuke's durability is Moon Level+

 

[Swagoorago]

shouldnt orochi get the same type of regen as SC since he also have a Regen Core which i also think different from his hentai monster form regen of absorbing stuff (which he hid from psykos appearntly)

 

[Magmag]

Boruto is Moon Level, Sasuke's durability is Moon Level+

So boruto downscaled to baseline? The same logic should apply to the ninja bros then.

 

[Magmag]

shouldnt orochi get the same type of regen as SC since he also have a Regen Core which i also think different from his hentai monster form regen of absorbing stuff (which he hid from psykos appearntly)

It’s implied, Garou was like uhhh, that seems familiar. But idk if that indicates 100% he has it.

 

[ImposingTiger]

Ninjas made FF cough blood. Downscaling them to High 7-A is more than acceptable in my opinion.

 

[Tural2004]

Has anyone here ever read Makai no Ossan? If there is a good feat, we can scale Golden Sperm to it since Ossan and GS are supposedly equals. I once heard that Ossan is strong enough to destroy an island by touching it but I didn't see something like that when reading it. I skipped most of narration though.

 

[SemiRaedi]

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What chapter did the Tatsumaki light manip scan come from?

 

[King]

Ninjas made FF cough blood. Downscaling them to High 7-A is more than acceptable in my opinion.

What value tho? Scaling them Homeless Emperor makes no sense as you can't form a scaling between them.

 

[Peter1129]

Well they can do small damage to a 6-C (5.4 Gigatons) who is somewhat above baseline so you can either downscale them to baseline 6-C (4.3 Gigatons) or if you think it’s too high just downscale them to baseline High 7-A+ (2.65 Gigatons). Not sure if we can downscale them to baseline High 7-A (1 Gigaton) as the gap between baseline High 7-A and the 6-C calc is 5.4x which is kind of big.

 

[King]

Well they can do small damage to a 6-C (5.4 Gigatons) who is somewhat above baseline so you can either downscale them to baseline 6-C (4.3 Gigatons) or if you think it’s too high just downscale them to baseline High 7-A+ (2.65 Gigatons). Not sure if we can downscale them to baseline High 7-A (1 Gigaton) as the gap between baseline High 7-A and the 6-C calc is 5.4x which is kind of big.

Honestly, this is a head scratcher. I just can't wrap my head around them having higher AP than Homeless Emperor. I think we can put them at baseline High 7A+ if there's no other choice.

 

[LordTracer]

How about this?

At least Low 7-B (Via being Dragon level), possibly High 7-A+ (Can harm a suppressed Flashy Flash)

 

[King]

How about this?

At least Low 7-B (Via being Dragon level), possibly High 7-A+ (Can harm a suppressed Flashy Flash)

Low 7B is incorrect as only High Demons have that. I feel like we should do away with a possibly as it takes away credence from the scaling chain.

At least Low 7B, High 7A+, possibly higher.

 

[King]

Low 7B is incorrect as only High Demons have that. possibly sounds bad. I feel like we should do away with a possibly as takes away credence from the scaling chain.

At Least 7B(Dragon Level), At least High 7A+, possibly higher.

I added possibly higher cause we can't get a good gauge of their power plus we don't know if FF can even decrease his durability.

 

[LordTracer]

Low 7B is incorrect as only High Demons have that.

… that’s just straight up wrong. At least Low 7-B is baseline Dragon level.

At Least 7B(Dragon Level), At least High 7A+, possibly higher.

1: This just isn’t how profiles are formatted.
2: At least 7-B is not default for all dragon levels, I don’t know what gave you that idea.
3: There’s no reason for them to have a “possibly higher” or an At least on their High 7-A+.

 

[King]

… that’s just straight up wrong. At least Low 7-B is baseline Dragon level.

1: This just isn’t how profiles are formatted.
2: At least 7-B is not default for all dragon levels, I don’t know what gave you that idea.
3: There’s no reason for them to have a “possibly higher” or an At least on their High 7-A+.

Oh, I didn't know that.
Then what about their Demon Level profiles?

 

[LordTracer]

Their Human keys are fine as they are now, they don’t scale to Flash in that key so it doesn’t really matter.