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I don't want to assume which is why I asked if there was some kind of statement that applies to all Zoan users.

I mean, we've never even seen Jack use his hybrid form yet. So I don't see how we can say it is superior to his full beast form which he seemingly prefers to fight in.
True, it could depend
 
I mean, we've never even seen Jack use his hybrid form yet. So I don't see how we can say it is superior to his full beast form which he seemingly prefers to fight in.
I think that's more so just Oda waiting to reveal them, the same thing has happened for nearly every Beast Pirate where they get their Hybrid Form revealed and it's shown that's where they're strongest.

It's only a matter of time before Jack and King are shown theirs.
 
Since those forms haven't been shown yet, I think it'd be better if they're just left out of the profiles.
 
While I can see why the hybrid forms could be the most suitable for combat in most cases, do we actually have any statements that hybrid form provides the highest AP / strength for all Zoan users?
I don't want to assume which is why I asked if there was some kind of statement that applies to all Zoan users.

I mean, we've never even seen Jack use his hybrid form yet. So I don't see how we can say it is superior to his full beast form which he seemingly prefers to fight in.
We have no statement at all, but it's been implied so many times in the series that it's the strongest for most zoans.

In all honesty, it's just a way of saying "higher with Full Zoan or Hybrid" since they're both superior, and we can actually hold it off until their hybrids get revealed.


By the way, does Page One have any feats outside of hybrid? (Ap feats)

What about base X Drake?
 
By the way, does Page One have any feats outside of hybrid? (Ap feats)

What about base X Drake?
None
Also, how are we gonna work casual Zoro vs Serious Zoro
Determine when he was serious and when he was casual, this is just my opinion:
Casual Zoro:
  • PH Dragon
  • Monet
  • Pica
  • Hawkins
  • Onimaru
  • Base X Drake
Serious Zoro:
  • Hyouzou
  • Killer
  • Fujitora
  • Denjiro
  • Apoo
 
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Determine when he was serious and when he was casual, this is just my opinion:
Casual Zoro:
  • PH Dragon
  • Monet
  • Pica
  • Hawkins
  • Base X Drake
Serious Zoro:
  • Hyouzou
  • Killer
  • Fujitora
  • Denjiro
  • Apoo
PH Dragon scales to Luffy.
Monet scales kinda to Luffy.
Hawkins scales to Law.
Base X Drake can end up scaling to casual Zoro, which scales to the Calamities.

The others, gotcha.

Now would we put "A-1, A-2 when serious"?
 
So for now, we know queen and jack are 6-C, but where would we put jack?
Would we scale him to zunesha or just scale him to 4.3 GT off of sanji iirc
 
PH Dragon scales to Luffy.
Monet scales kinda to Luffy.
Hawkins scales to Law.
Base X Drake can end up scaling to casual Zoro, which scales to the Calamities.

The others, gotcha.

Now would we put "A-1, A-2 when serious"?
I meant to say under the calamities*
 
Wouldn't we just scale Zoro to his usual serious self, and just avoid scaling others to him when we can tell that he's holding back?

Against Apoo, he clashed with him fairly evenly for a bit until he turned serious and blitzed him.
 
Wouldn't we just scale Zoro to his usual serious self, and just avoid scaling others to him when we can tell that he's holding back?

Against Apoo, he clashed with him fairly evenly for a bit until he turned serious and blitzed him.
That's what i was thinking
 
Wouldn't we just scale Zoro to his usual serious self, and just avoid scaling others to him when we can tell that he's holding back?
He holds back so much that it deserves a rating
Against Apoo, he clashed with him fairly evenly for a bit until he turned serious and blitzed him.
Casual Zoro ~ Apoo.
Serious Zoro >>>> Apoo.
 
Wait guys, isn't it stated that katakuri is luffy's toughest foe yet?
Hody after consuming the pills would be 3.9 GT, but underwater he would be x2 wouldn't he be 7.8 GT?

If katakuri is stated to be the toughest opponent yet, wouldn't he just automatically scale above that, and so would boundman? just asking
 
He holds back so much that it deserves a rating

I'm not so sure about that. How do we know that Zoro holding back against one opponent is the same level as him holding back against a different opponent?
 
I'm not so sure about that. How do we know that Zoro holding back against one opponent is the same level as him holding back against a different opponent?
We're just gonna assume Zoro changes the force in his swings consistently?
 
I’m neutral. I don’t mind rating Zoro as straight up just 6-C or rating him high 7-A when casual and 6-C when serious, but then again we know him being serious isn’t really going all out either as shown with ashura hurting kaido so, I am leaning a bit toward damage, we should just keep it at “6-C, higher with haki, even higher with ashura”
 
We're just gonna assume Zoro changes the force in his swings consistently?
Isn't that a lot like what you're proposing? That Zoro changes the force of his swings to a consistent level when he's being casual? Why would he do that?
 
  • Apoo's fighting music temporarily incapacitated Base Luffy with a single Hit (At least High 7-A+, he most likely upscales from this to 6-C)
Isn't Apoo's fighting music hax to some extent? It isn't a normal shockwave/slash/whatever since you can stop it entirely by covering your ears.
Page One:
  • Took hits from Base and Raid Suit Sanji in Zoan Form (At least High 7-A+, Possibly upscales to 6-C)
  • Overpowered Raid Suit Sanji in Hybrid Form (At least High 7-A+, Possibly upscales to 6-C)
What? Page One didn't one shot Sanji, why would he upscale?

Raid Suit Sanji upscaling?

RS Sanji > DJ Sanji > Base Sanji > 3.9 GT
Do we actually have a way to compare RS and DJ? Sanji didn't use DJ against Paypay and his feats inside onigashima put DJ and RS at the same level.

Also, i think just wearing the RS isn't an AP buff, he seems to only get a buff when using the speed boosters (like his first attack against full zoan Paypay and the final attack that made hybrid scream).
 
Do we actually have a way to compare RS and DJ? Sanji didn't use DJ against Paypay and his feats inside onigashima put DJ and RS at the same level.
Not really, but RS has showed larger amps than DJ.
DJ isn't too far off from his regular feats, but RS dramatically damaged Page One while he tanked base attacks. DJ just showed a superior boost
Also, i think just wearing the RS isn't an AP buff, he seems to only get a buff when using the speed boosters (like his first attack against full zoan Paypay and the final attack that made hybrid scream).
Which is true, but he spams those speed boosters, so it doesn't make a big difference
 
Yeah, so I just want to point out, I disagree with the notion that Luffy used Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd against Fujitora, I went back and checked the Anime and we never see him enter Gear 2nd at all, he also never says Gear 2nd in the manga either, if the smoke is the only thing indicating that he used Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd, then I frankly don't agree with that and think he only used Gear 3rd
 
Yeah, so I just want to point out, I disagree with the notion that Luffy used Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd against Fujitora, I went back and checked the Anime and we never see him enter Gear 2nd at all, he also never says Gear 2nd in the manga either, if the smoke is the only thing indicating that he used Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd, then I frankly don't agree with that and think he only used Gear 3rd
I agree with mitch, but fortunately, it doesn't really change anything, considering gear third alone is already 3.9 GT
 
Yeah, so I just want to point out, I disagree with the notion that Luffy used Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd against Fujitora, I went back and checked the Anime and we never see him enter Gear 2nd at all, he also never says Gear 2nd in the manga either, if the smoke is the only thing indicating that he used Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd, then I frankly don't agree with that and think he only used Gear 3rd
funny u say that cus I just watched Dressrosa and I’m pretty sure he did go gear 2 + 3. Will upload pics soon
 
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