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I mean, the gap from the 3,9 characters to baseline 6C is even smaller at 1.08x, shouldn't Sanji upscale to 6C in his second key? I have no idea if we can upscale dura via statements about "sturdiest body" but i do think Oven's dura could be 6C as well.
For Upscaling either a one-shot or vast superiority is needed, Oven's superiority in durability doesn't apply for that.
 
Yeah Sanji showed relativity to Oven's dura.

Also, Daifuku scales to that Sanji. I forgot to say that earlier.

How does base Katakuri scaling above Daifuku and Biscuit Soldiers look? As the strongest member of the Big Mom Pirates next to the captains, his base should be superior to a Biscuit Soldier and his siblings that aren't Commanders
 
Yeah Sanji showed relativity to Oven's dura.

Also, Daifuku scales to that Sanji. I forgot to say that earlier.

How does base Katakuri scaling above Daifuku and Biscuit Soldiers look? As the strongest member of the Big Mom Pirates next to the captains, his base should be superior to a Biscuit Soldier and his siblings that aren't Commanders
I'm not sure about scaling his base, to be a commander doesn't necessarily mean that their base strength is above others, and him being the strongest doesn't necessarily mean he's the strongest base to base.
 
I'm not sure about scaling his base, to be a commander doesn't necessarily mean that their base strength is above others, and him being the strongest doesn't necessarily mean he's the strongest base to base.
Fair enough then
 
So what do y’all think about the dura ratings?
I think they’re fine how they are. Would Kata with haki be island level? Or no, cause does oven have higher dura than only base kata
 
So what do y’all think about the dura ratings?
I think they’re fine how they are. Would Kata with haki be island level? Or no, cause does oven have higher dura than only base kata
Pretty sure this has already been said several times now, Katakuri's durability with armament haki got completely blown away by a 6-C Boundman, here I'll even show the scans:
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Is there anything else left for us to take care of? I think sanji should not upscale to prevent scaling issues, plus katas dura doesn’t scale to Boundman anyway. Daifuku scaling to this sanji seems weird but oh well
 
Is there anything else left for us to take care of? I think sanji should not upscale to prevent scaling issues, plus katas dura doesn’t scale to Boundman anyway. Daifuku scaling to this sanji seems weird but oh well
if you scroll through the pages you will see there's plenty to still take care off, we've just been stuck discussing Doflamingo and Katakuri for the past 12 pages because they keep being brought up again and again.
 
I'm beyond lost at this point, so I'll wait until the sandbox is ready for re-evaluation.

Also, what do you guys think about Jack scaling to Zunesha

This has been addressed a couple of pages ago. I consulted with DontTalkDT on the physics involved for the subject who agrees with me that Jack should not be scaling.
 
This has been addressed a couple of pages ago. I consulted with DontTalkDT on the physics involved for the subject who agrees with me that Jack should not be scaling.
I saw and he thought the footprints were scratches to Zunesha himself when those were in fact just regular footprints on dirt. As well as the fact that the trumpeting from Zunesha only occurred when he was being damaged by Jack (the rumbling & when he was firing canons at it's ankles).

So no it's not been addressed.
 
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I'm beyond lost at this point, so I'll wait until the sandbox is ready for re-evaluation.



This has been addressed a couple of pages ago. I consulted with DontTalkDT on the physics involved for the subject who agrees with me that Jack should not be scaling.
We updated the sandbox, it’s not fully done yet but you can look at it and if you have any questions let us know.
 
Killer
Hawkins
Kid

Ratings and justifications
Apoo:
  • Apoo's fighting music temporarily incapacitated Base Luffy with a single Hit (At least High 7-A+, he most likely upscales from this to 6-C)
  • Apoo's durability scales to X Drake (6-C)

X Drake:
  • X Drake being superior to Gear third Luffy and damaging Sanji (6-C & At least High 7-A+)
  • X Drake tanking a kick to the face from base Sanji (At least High 7-A+)

Kid:
  • Kid with Metal constructs damaging Apoo (6-C)
  • Kid taking Apoo's Fighting Music (6-C)

Killer:
  • Damaged Zoro with his scythe (6-C)

Hawkins:
  • Pressured Casual Zoro (At least High 7-A)
  • Matched Dressrosa Law (At least High 7-A)

Page One:
  • Took hits from Base and Raid Suit Sanji in Zoan Form (At least High 7-A+, Possibly upscales to 6-C)
  • Overpowered Raid Suit Sanji in Hybrid Form (At least High 7-A+, Possibly upscales to 6-C)
 
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Apoo:
  • Apoo's fighting music temporarily incapacitated Base Luffy with a single Hit (At least High 7-A+, he most likely upscales from this to 6-C)
  • Apoo's durability scales to X Drake (6-C)

X Drake:
  • X Drake being superior to Gear third Luffy and damaging Sanji (6-C & At least High 7-A+)
  • X Drake tanking a kick to the face from base Sanji (At least High 7-A+)

Kid:
  • Kid with Metal constructs damaging Apoo (6-C)
  • Kid taking Apoo's Fighting Music (6-C)

Killer:
  • Damaged Zoro with his scythe (6-C)

Hawkins:
  • Pressured Casual Zoro (At least High 7-A)
  • Matched Dressrosa Law (At least High 7-A)
I agree with all, but doesn't apoo's fighting music neg dura?
 
Apoo:
  • Apoo's fighting music temporarily incapacitated Base Luffy with a single Hit (At least High 7-A+, he most likely upscales from this to 6-C)
  • Apoo's durability scales to X Drake (6-C)
Drew blood from Zoro as well
 
Should we give King, Queen, and Jack the "higher with Full Zoan, even higher with Hybrid"?
 
Should we give King, Queen, and Jack the "higher with Full Zoan, even higher with Hybrid"?
While I can see why the hybrid forms could be the most suitable for combat in most cases, do we actually have any statements that hybrid form provides the highest AP / strength for all Zoan users?
 
I mean logically shouldn't it?
I don't want to assume which is why I asked if there was some kind of statement that applies to all Zoan users.

I mean, we've never even seen Jack use his hybrid form yet. So I don't see how we can say it is superior to his full beast form which he seemingly prefers to fight in.
 
Apoo:
  • Apoo's fighting music temporarily incapacitated Base Luffy with a single Hit (At least High 7-A+, he most likely upscales from this to 6-C)
  • Apoo's durability scales to X Drake (6-C)

X Drake:
  • X Drake being superior to Gear third Luffy and damaging Sanji (6-C & At least High 7-A+)
  • X Drake tanking a kick to the face from base Sanji (At least High 7-A+)

Kid:
  • Kid with Metal constructs damaging Apoo (6-C)
  • Kid taking Apoo's Fighting Music (6-C)

Killer:
  • Damaged Zoro with his scythe (6-C)

Hawkins:
  • Pressured Casual Zoro (At least High 7-A)
  • Matched Dressrosa Law (At least High 7-A)

Page One:
  • Took hits from Base and Raid Suit Sanji in Zoan Form (At least High 7-A+, Possibly upscales to 6-C)
  • Overpowered Raid Suit Sanji in Hybrid Form (At least High 7-A+, Possibly upscales to 6-C)
So I agree with everything here. If sanji is upscaling to 6-C with raid suit, page one should also be 6-C, as well as drake iirc
 
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