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Some Random One Piece CRT

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Katakuri is ~ G3 without Haki, Oven's dura is > Kata, Sanji is > Oven's dura

Sanji > Oven > Kata = G3 Luffy

Even if we put Sanji as = Oven it's still above Katakuri

Yeah, they seem equals more times than not.


What feat got this result? Anyway:

Now i know overdosed Hody is 994.233264Mts while G2 gets up scaling and goes to H7A (1Gt) and iirc G3 is currently 1Gt as well, but reading 645 we see:

Hody was left with white eyes after taking Red Hawk -> Hody used a massive amount of steroids -> white eyes again/final KO from Elephant Gun (btw, Elephant Gatling was targeted at Noah, Hody was already defeated)

We have no idea how many steroids Hody actually used, but since we see several falling from his hand i would say at least 2 is fine (so a 4x), meaning Monster Hody would be at least 3976.933056Mts (or 3.9Gts) and thus G3 is H7A+ up to Dressrosa (or pre-round 2, whatever), i think we shouldn't use any upscaling for G3 here because Hody had already suffered a massive amount of damage and even internal damage from RH so the one shot isn't 100% due to a strength gap.

There is more i want to add here obviously, but first i want to know if no one has a problem with the way i am scaling things here (or if i got some number wrong at some point).
You’re right but we used a lowball multiplier since there is a rule against it iirc
 
Katakuri is ~ G3 without Haki, Oven's dura is > Kata, Sanji is > Oven's dura

Sanji > Oven > Kata = G3 Luffy

Even if we put Sanji as = Oven it's still above Katakuri

Yeah, they seem equals more times than not.


What feat got this result? Anyway:

Now i know overdosed Hody is 994.233264Mts while G2 gets up scaling and goes to H7A (1Gt) and iirc G3 is currently 1Gt as well, but reading 645 we see:

Hody was left with white eyes after taking Red Hawk -> Hody used a massive amount of steroids -> white eyes again/final KO from Elephant Gun (btw, Elephant Gatling was targeted at Noah, Hody was already defeated)

We have no idea how many steroids Hody actually used, but since we see several falling from his hand i would say at least 2 is fine (so a 4x), meaning Monster Hody would be at least 3976.933056Mts (or 3.9Gts) and thus G3 is H7A+ up to Dressrosa (or pre-round 2, whatever), i think we shouldn't use any upscaling for G3 here because Hody had already suffered a massive amount of damage and even internal damage from RH so the one shot isn't 100% due to a strength gap.

There is more i want to add here obviously, but first i want to know if no one has a problem with the way i am scaling things here (or if i got some number wrong at some point).
Also where would g2 be using your math?
 
You’re right but we used a lowball multiplier since there is a rule against it iirc
Sorry i didn't understand, rule against what?

Also where would g2 be using your math?
Both Base Luffy and G2's best feats are related to overdosed Hody afaik so Luffy is 994 (7A+) and G2 is 1Gt (baseline H7A), it's the same as the current rework.
 
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Katakuri is ~ G3 without Haki, Oven's dura is > Kata, Sanji is > Oven's dura

Sanji > Oven > Kata = G3 Luffy

Even if we put Sanji as = Oven it's still above Katakuri

Yeah, they seem equals more times than not.
This makes sense, my bad then.
But here's my issue.

I don't like thinking that Kata's regular AP was ~ Gear 3rd.
Like its weird cause Kata matched/overpowered it with a huge Mochi amped attack. Saying that's ~ his regular punches and kicks is weird.

What feat got this result?
A casual Pica punch was 62.139579 Megatons. The unified force of Elizabello and Chinjao matched it's AP, so we split it in half (31 Megatons) and scaled ppl off of it
Now i know overdosed Hody is 994.233264Mts while G2 gets up scaling and goes to H7A (1Gt) and iirc G3 is currently 1Gt as well, but reading 645 we see:

Hody was left with white eyes after taking Red Hawk -> Hody used a massive amount of steroids -> white eyes again/final KO from Elephant Gun (btw, Elephant Gatling was targeted at Noah, Hody was already defeated)

We have no idea how many steroids Hody actually used, but since we see several falling from his hand i would say at least 2 is fine (so a 4x), meaning Monster Hody would be at least 3976.933056Mts (or 3.9Gts) and thus G3 is H7A+ up to Dressrosa (or pre-round 2, whatever), i think we shouldn't use any upscaling for G3 here because Hody had already suffered a massive amount of damage and even internal damage from RH so the one shot isn't 100% due to a strength gap.

There is more i want to add here obviously, but first i want to know if no one has a problem with the way i am scaling things here (or if i got some number wrong at some point).
Definitely no issue
 
Yeah but I thought we established that Snakeman < G3rd? Or I might've missed something
Yeah Post WCI (Round 2) Gear 3rd is > Snakeman because of how the two of them matched up to edged mochi and power mochi but we don't really have evidence for how Round 2 Snakeman and Round 1 Gear Third stack up.

I guess it could be weaker though.
 
Base Sanji superior to Gear 3 when Diable Jambe Sanji failed to put down an unresisting Luffy after multiple attacks?

That is a bit ehh.
 
Base Sanji superior to Gear 3 when Diable Jambe Sanji failed to put down an unresisting Luffy after multiple attacks?

That is a bit ehh.
We don't know when Sanji actually got a development or what even triggered his development, he has a feat after his fight with Luffy and that's it, unless the feat isn't valid idk what exactly is strange, all that means is that during their fight Sanji wasn't at the level he was later (a reminder that Luffy's dura scales to G3 so he would be 3.9Gts, while DJ during their fight would be 2Gts).

I mean, yeah Oven does not have a single feat at this level, but he has a databook statement, so unless Kata's Non-Haki durability is below Round 1 G3 or the statement isn't valid then the scaling is valid.
 
We don't know when Sanji actually got a development or what even triggered his development, he has a feat after his fight with Luffy and that's it, unless the feat isn't valid idk what exactly is strange, all that means is that during their fight Sanji wasn't at the level he was later (a reminder that Luffy's dura scales to G3 so he would be 3.9Gts, while DJ during their fight would be 2Gts).

I mean, yeah Oven does not have a single feat at this level, but he has a databook statement, so unless Kata's Non-Haki durability is below Round 1 G3 or the statement isn't valid then the scaling is valid.
So basically everything is the same scaling with gear 3rd round 2 being 4 Gigatons and Boundman upscaling to 6-C, but only difference is that now gear third up to dressrosa is 3.9 GT? Alright I guess, unless I’m missing something
 
I mean, yeah Oven does not have a single feat at this level, but he has a databook statement, so unless Kata's Non-Haki durability is below Round 1 G3 or the statement isn't valid then the scaling is valid.
Kat's non haki dura scales to Gear 2nd Luffy/Snakeman.
Oven's dura scales to that but no one we know scales to G3rd Dura wise
 
Sorry i didn't understand, rule against what?


Both Base Luffy and G2's best feats are related to overdosed Hody afaik so Luffy is 994 (7A+) and G2 is 1Gt (baseline H7A), it's the same as the current rework.
Wait, so doesn’t this multiplier you’re trying to add effect a lot?
Meaning gear second becomes h7a+
Gear 4th would be x4 that so dressrosa Boundman also becomes 6-C?

then awakening kata would also be 6-C? Correct me if I’m wrong
 
We don't know when Sanji actually got a development or what even triggered his development, he has a feat after his fight with Luffy and that's it, unless the feat isn't valid idk what exactly is strange, all that means is that during their fight Sanji wasn't at the level he was later (a reminder that Luffy's dura scales to G3 so he would be 3.9Gts, while DJ during their fight would be 2Gts).

I mean, yeah Oven does not have a single feat at this level, but he has a databook statement, so unless Kata's Non-Haki durability is below Round 1 G3 or the statement isn't valid then the scaling is valid.
wait if dressrosa gear third is 3.971 GT, and we know gear 4th is way stronger, cant we upscale gear 4th to 4.3 Gigatons there as well? meaning awakening kata and cracker also become baseline 6-C?

We know gear 4th is way stronger than that, and it meets 1.1x requirement, so upscaling would be fine here wouldn't it? Since we know gear fourth >>>> gear third, as shown by how katakuri casually shook a round 1 gear third off but then started to get bodied by boundman, and it also shows with cracker's shield too

This makes round 2 gear third baseline 6-C, and the boundman that fought kaido unquantifiably higher
 
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also is everyone fine with that? because this is a 128x multiplier on hody btw off of his pills
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Damn really?
 
This is why I was uncomfortable with the notion of these multipliers to begin with.
 
So are you guys fine with upscaling dressrosa boundman to 6-C off of gear third which is 4 gigatons essentially, and then katakuri, and cracker scale to that boundman, while round 2 gear third is also 6-C, and boundman is unquantifiable as to how much higher it is but it is higher.
 
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There was a CRT for it quite recently where it was rejected.
And the justification to deny it was pretty weak, the argument used was comparing what Jack did to insect bites.

The issue is insect bites or stings cause pain through levels of saliva/poison, while Jack was causing it through pure blunt force from his steps.

The difference is even more insane since the difference in size between say a human and an insect is a lot smaller than the difference between Zunesha and Jack.

Jack caused pain to Zunesha through the blunt force of walking on him, he absolutely should scale.
 
Look at the past crt that was rejected in bleach? You yourself should be the last one talking about this.

It doesn’t matter if it was rejected in the past it could still be discussed and come to a different conclusion.
 
Look at the past crt that was rejected in bleach? You yourself should be the last one talking about this.

It doesn’t matter if it was rejected in the past it could still be discussed and come to a different conclusion.
You'd need some new evidence.

The CRT for Bleach brings up points that were not discussed previously.

Don't try and derail this by bringing up other verses.
 
You'd need some new evidence.

The CRT for Bleach brings up points that were not discussed previously.

Don't try and derail this by bringing up other verses.
Which is exactly what emin is doing btw.(last comment from me on this crt unless somebody responds to my old ones)
 
Lol ok buddy wtv u say.

anyways Jack hurt Zunesha, wanted to kill it and took a blow from it. He should scale.

Your argument last time was a false comparison that is incredibly wrong and only got rejected cus the op conceded
 
Surface area is still a thing; the Gigatons of energy moving through the trunk is being experienced by the whole trunk; a surface area of probably kilometers squared. The surface area of the footprints left by Jack? Way, way, way smaller. Jack does not need comparable energy to the trunk swsing to be able to inflict minor harm in Zunesha.
 
Surface area is still a thing; the Gigatons of energy moving through the trunk is being experienced by the whole trunk; a surface area of probably kilometers squared. The surface area of the footprints left by Jack? Way, way, way smaller. Jack does not need comparable energy to the trunk swsing to be able to inflict minor harm in Zunesha.
Zunesha trumpeting in pain isn't really minor harm. Jack would be scaling to Zuensha's bodies AP which his durability should scale too, not the trunk swing.
 
So is this a one piece thread for everything post timeskip? 🤔
 
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Donquixote Doflamingo​


Attack Potency: At least Large Mountain level himself (Easily defeated Sanji)

(Not sure how doffy ever defeated sanji... 🤔)

Vergo​


Attack Potency: At least Large Mountain level (Matched Sanji's )

(Matched Sanji's .......)
 
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