I concur and do recall that atrocious thread.
No. Though, depending on how the context could be, one could make an argument that being that could share similar nature in the verse would have type 1 abstract.
Well, there are other attacks in the verse that counts as Erasure, like I definitely would consider Disintegration as one, and they do erase everything in both physical and spiritual aspects. And at the very least True Dragons and Primordial Demons are capable of regenerating from them, albeit most of them takes up to hundreds of years to reform.
An argument could be made but as of now I personally don't see how it could be AE Type 1.
No but they don't really need speed. As long they are against someone with infinite or above it should be fine. Or like anyone billions of times FTL.
So it means,ln rim most likely gets recked by db Characters.Well most of the time speed gets equalised in vsb so i guess its fine
The reason why I didn't say Disintegration was because it comes down to its potency. Its not just erasing physical matter and spirit particles from existence but destroying them. You can resist this.
There's always time stop. Besides the AP/Durability disparity is massive.
I've been curious about this, how exactly are they gonna deal with MFTL+ characters? I've only really read the MTL to understand the story, many of their feats have gone over my head now due to its quality.
Do you mean AP? I've always been curious about this topic.
Well just wait for all the speed of sound stuff from V13 and V14. Velgrynd is faster character so far and she's not even FTL or SOL. Hinata couldn't see it traveling plus they all new he was targeting Chloe and started moving before he fired. At least Hinata who was also closer. Regardless I'll touch it momentarily.
Yes that's true. Not its definitely going to depend on how high into MFTL but with Thought Acceleration they have FTL perception/reactions (not movement) and Rimuru has like MFTL+ (315 million times). What's important about this is that the activation of magic and skills scale to this speed. Even if they can't move that fast it'll mirror how Rimuru kept with Velgrynd via continuous Spatial Movement.
Veldora was only hit by Melt Slash but it wasn't potent enough to do much. Demons are weak to Holy magic but even disregarding that. Diablo already demonstrated that there's no reason to fear Disintegration. If have a resistance to Holy Attacks and Spiritual Attacks you'll be fine as long as it doesn't surpass your resistance.
EoS characters have both Endless Regeneration (will regenerate as long as they have mana), multilayered barriers and time stop.
Yeah, some of these create inconsistencies IMO, we have to decide which is an outlier and which isn't. It seems that downgrades is inevitable for mid-tiers though.
This isn't relevant right now in terms of causing any updates, but I would love to see calcs and CRTs or even just a blog post about these in the future.
My question is about whether or not Disintegration can be resisted through sheer durability, because so far it isn't really being portrayed like that (in my opinion, at least, correct me if I'm wrong).
Well yeah, there are many other Holy-based or spiritual-based attacks in the series, just that Disintegration is the strongest of them all, often called as the ultimate destructive magic. Basically because how most holy attacks don't do anything to humans/non-magic folks, but Disintegration kills everything it hits.
Didn't Adalmann survive by chance? And some other factors I'm forgetting about.
Only barely ftl perception speed and reaction speed with spatial Manipulation for only Rimuru
Shuna at the time was her first time using Disintegration, she even commented her disitegration is far from complete, as for Kai just like what Metalballrun said, she specifically aim for his clothes to humiliate him in front of audience.
Meltslash not Disintegration. And it was because it was a combination of an art and magic both very in those individual respects
Firstly I always find that scene odd because their fighting Granbell outside and Chloe's in the cathedral but regardless Granbell aimed Melt Strike at Chloe. Which is variation of Melt Slash that shoots projectiles. Its probably relativistic but its definitely going be contradicted with later scaling.
Not sure what the Yuuki thing is.
Veldora doesn't have any resistance other people don't have. He wasn't effected because of his aura/energy density. It similar with Charybdis.
Spiritual particles CAN move through space and time but that doesn't mean they are. But yes they negate conventional durability unless you know the movement which means it can be blocked. Rimuru blocked the Paladins with Absolute Defensive which is less effective at tracking the particles on others.
Shuna used Overdrive and just hit him with his own attack. Hakurou and Soei were surprised he didn't die. And it didn't land be him and Albert got downgraded because of it. Adalmann became a Wright and Albert a Death Knight.
I don't think there was anything that suggested Granbell's Melt Strike has any significant differences than a regular Melt Slash aside from it being a projectile, though I don't remember anything in the future volumes that contradicts it. Even Rimuru says he could barely perceive the attack itself but now he can because he has seen it before.
We can still pick apart statements and figure out its authenticity. Rimuru isn't an entirely unreliable narrator.
Oh, I'm not sure if you've read Volume 12 yet, but Yuuki was described to "launch attacks at speeds over a hundred meters per second" while fighting Guy Crimson.
So kind of like regeneration and energy consumption then? From what I understand, damages on Rimuru's and Veldora's physical body isn't as important as how much energy is consumed or drained taking certain attacks. Rimuru had far lesser energy than Veldora thus taking Melt Slash directly with Beelzebub cost him 70% of his energy, while Veldora has so much mass of energy that it barely drained anything from him.
Yeah that's correct, I don't really remember how that fight went though.
Can't say for sure,he does have space time Manipulation (or domination) as part of void god azathot, which he hadn't used,most likely a part of that.But lets wait
Yeah, but in the WN he said that even with that, actually managing to pull the Time Stop/Frozen World was quite hard. A lot of his subordinates got that sub-skill thanks to Ciel using Rimuru's own skill to empower them, but Rimuru said in the WN that probably the only ones to manage the Frozen World would be Zegion, Benimaru and Diablo.
Something related to the True Dragons. Losing it may mean death, but not a permanent one for the True Dragons, and by stealing it, Michael gained a lot of power (enough that he has the current highest known EP barring Rimuru). We know that it is distinctly separated from the Soul and the Core/Heart.
Thanks for your hard work
Its not very different. By contradict I more so meant conflicting scaling that'd suggest they are more Hypersonic ranges rather than Relativistic, at least in movement speed. Which I don't think is too big of a deal.
Yeah I'm not one of those people that disregards everything Rimuru says. Though I do think like every character is an unreliable narrator because their equally fallible.
I'm specifically referring him fearing the prospect of fighting her. Or believing her to be of relevant or notable strength. Which isn't necessarily a problem in every context...
Can you quote this? Because from what I recall it wasn't strictly speed that was tripping him up. And I don't remember him being so overwhelmed he taking damage or completely unable to keep up.
Yeah I read it. I probably didn't register because those students are all over V13-V15. Usually being thought or said by Rimuru.
Not enough context for the Veldora thing. We just know they fought and she tried everything and lost. Rimuru's energy could've been drained due the purification element but I find that unlikely. Or simply because taking damage reduces magicules. Or because of the cost of Infinite Regeneration.
Sauce?
Its just energy. When he takes Velgrynd he just takes her energy. Which would be consistent with him not taking all of Velzard. And his EP rising.
Well yeah it is kinda weird that Hinata even run that fast, but yeah it's not that big of a deal.
I can't use imgur right now but this is one of the quotes:
I think that's because he describes the Stomach as a metaphysical realm of imagination. So I don't know if that'd apply outside.I don't remember the exact chapter, but here:
Ah yes, she is still tagging him but he corrects the idea that its simply her getting faster. He's being baited by her feints and sword play which is allowing Hinata to easily counter him.
It is before Veldora gets released as an Ultimate Skill and Soul Corridor was stablished. So dying in there would still count as death as everyone but Veldora.
Yes it's just a confirmation that Hinata is fast enough even for Rimuru, she doesn't necessarily have to be faster than his perception speed, although her sword strikes specifically reaching that speed wouldn't be that strange.
LN doesn't have high godly because of insufficient arguments for informantion particles being literal information that makes up everything in existence, comparable to concepts.
