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Battle for the 4# Stongest 9-B

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Both are 9-B (Void shiki key use)

Speed equal
SBA otherwise
 
So, she needs to think to turn it on? What's her in-character move? Also, add tags please.
Yep because otherwise she will have destroy the World when she have appear the first time in her verse with the body of shiki

She don't have in character move since never have do a fight but since she don't really like to intervene in the reality she will surely just search the most quick way to kill/incap him, since she omniscient she will not have problem to see if killing him would lead to problem or what the best way to defeat him and will know his capacity.
 
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SBA means that they're willing to kill so she should be able to use her passives
 
Anyone know how function the capacity of Taylor, if this passive or active and what he do in character move and if he can affect NEP2
 
Actually, I'm not even sure if he can affect NEP2, you should probably contact Mrkingofnegativity.
 
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I'm watching this
 
Well until I see some more argument's I'll vote for Shiki

since it doesn't seem like John can affect Nonexistent (Type 2)
 
I'd provide an argument for John, but I'm still in the earlier chapters. I'll just wait for King or Schnee to provide their arguments.
 
Actually, can't John just BFR her?
The bfr from material plane? This would do nothing to her she will just recome, and she likely resist it with her transduality. + If it's more than though based he will be incaped before
 
The bfr from material plane? This would do nothing to her she will just recome, and she likely resist it with her transduality. + If it's more than though based he will be incaped before

John can BFR his opponents to higher-dimensional places, and all of his abilities are thought-based as well. And we also can't forget that he has some busted power null as well.
 
John can BFR his opponents to higher-dimensional places, and all of his abilities are thought-based as well. And we also can't forget that he has some busted power null as well.
The bfr of higher dimmension seem to be with the coin so well not really thought based

The power null is based of nulling the source but void is the source and don't know the potency of the thing
 
How strong is the powernull?

Somewhere from hyperversal to borderline outerversal smurf hax. It's mentioned on his profile as well.

Range: At least Hyperversal with his powers. Potentially even higher. (His third eye can scan all of space-time, as well as directly affect alternate timelines and higher dimensions. The personification of John's gift has stated that the eye at its full potential is capable of directly tapping into reality, as well as seeing everything that exists in reality-- which is confirmed to have several higher dimensions-- at once. Used his powers to see and reach into the afterlife, which is confirmed to exist beyond all dimensions in the setting.)
 
if your power null is higher-dimensional but you don't have feats of affecting a nonexistent type 2 being, Can you power null that being?
 
I believe Elizhaa made an argument about Higher Dimensional Abilities affecting lower-dimensional characters even if that character is a Nonexistent Type 2 being
It was made in pause till the thread about ir it's made by staff

But well even without that it's not really in character for john to do that instantly
 
And literally everyone disagreed. HD has absolutely nothing to do with NEP. That's like saying a character with 4D soul manip can affect a soulless character.
 
And literally everyone disagreed. HD has absolutely nothing to do with NEP. That's like saying a character with 4D soul manip can affect a soulless character.
I only remember you, Rikimarox2 and Regidian disagreed with it. Everyone else either didn't see it or ignored it. I know most people have problems with the wording of the Nonexistent Physiology page and Nonexistent Type 2 making you immune to everything including higher-dimensional hax because your concept is nonexistent

and besides, I still wanna hear Elizhaa's arguments I don't think she got to say everything she wanted.

I'll ask her to comment here
 
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I only remember you, Rikimarox2 and Regidian disagreed with it. Everyone else either didn't see it or ignored it. I know most people have problems with the wording of the Nonexistent Physiology page and Nonexistent Type 2 making you immune to everything including higher-dimensional hax because your concept is nonexistent

and besides, I still wanna hear Elizhaa's arguments I don't think she got to say everything she wanted.

I'll ask her to comment hear
Many other people have disagree like Ion, yuriakuto and other even in the strongest thread and i the thread i make it's mostly need to wait until they do the NEP2 rework that DT have tell that he will do it


And we already know how she see thing + the fact that he don't even have some conceptual manipulation or anything that would let him possibly do that
 
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Many other people have disagree like Ion, yuriakuto and other even in the strongest thread and i the thread i make it's mostly need to wait until they do the NEP2 rework that DT have tell that he will do it
Well I asked Elizhaa to comment here so while we wait

I'll just assume that higher dimensional abilities cant affect nonexistent type 2 for now.

so anyways if none of John's higher-dimensional powers can affect nonexistent physiology type 2 then my vote goes to Shiki
the only thing i think that can affect her is BFR since its simply transporting you somewhere else unless NEP type 2 also negates BFR
 
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